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Re: Mandatory health insurance

Post by Up2u » Sat May 25, 2019 7:41 am

2lz2p wrote:
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From the various articles, it is clear the new health insurance requirements will apply to persons applying for a Non-Immigrant "O-A" Visa from a Thai Embassy or Consulate in their country of residence. However, what is not really clear is whether those that entered on an "O-A" Visa and apply to Immigration for an extension of their one year stay will also be required to show they have health insurance.
It's clear to me but the key words are effective July 1st. If you have been doing annual extensions, be it an O or O-A, you are off the hook. If you applying for an O-A, after July 1st in your home country you will have to provide evidence of health insurance. I was advising friends to get their O-A visa in USA but now that may no longer be advisable unless they meet the 400k/40k insurance mandate. I hope that existing O-A holders that have not yet done their first annual extension will be grandfathered.

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Re: Mandatory health insurance

Post by Undaunted » Sat May 25, 2019 8:38 am

Up2u wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 7:41 am
It's clear to me but the key words are effective July 1st. If you have been doing annual extensions, be it an O or O-A, you are off the hook.
Interesting assumption, but anything but “clear”.
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Re: Mandatory health insurance

Post by Gaybutton » Sat May 25, 2019 9:08 am

Undaunted wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 8:38 am
Interesting assumption, but anything but “clear”.
One part not clear to me is if someone applies for a first-time retirement visa within Thailand, rather than applying for it in the home country, assuming eligible, which visa does he end up with, the O or the O-A?

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Re: Mandatory health insurance

Post by Undaunted » Sat May 25, 2019 9:28 am

Gaybutton wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 9:08 am
One part not clear to me is if someone applies for a first-time retirement visa within Thailand, rather than applying for it in the home country, assuming he's eligible, which visa does he end up with, the O or the O-A?
Clearly an “O” visa.
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Re: Mandatory health insurance

Post by Gaybutton » Sat May 25, 2019 10:30 am

Undaunted wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 9:28 am
Clearly an “O” visa.
I'm trying, and failing, to make some sense out of this. If someone is eligible for the retirement visa and applies for it in his home country, he has to provide a police report and proof of fulfilling Thailand's medical insurance requirements. Then he gets the O-A visa and will have to at least provide proof of insurance the next year when renewing.

If Undaunted is correct, if that same person applies for a first-time retirement visa within Thailand, he doesn't have to provide proof of insurance or a police report - and he gets the O visa.

If that makes any sense, I'd be grateful if someone can explain the logic to me. What am I missing? Guess what's on my "I Don't Get It" list . . .

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Re: Mandatory health insurance

Post by Undaunted » Sat May 25, 2019 11:48 am

G.B. since when in Thailand do these things make sense?
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Re: Mandatory health insurance

Post by Undaunted » Sat May 25, 2019 12:09 pm

If you are unlucky enough to have an O-A visa just let it run to its expiration date and apply from scratch in Thailand and recieve an O visa!
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Re: Mandatory health insurance

Post by Dodger » Sat May 25, 2019 1:34 pm

Up2u wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 7:41 am
If you have been doing annual extensions, be it an O or O-A, you are off the hook. If you applying for an O-A, after July 1st in your home country you will have to provide evidence of health insurance.
This is the way I hope it goes but it's till unclear.

2lz2p wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 6:22 pm
In both cases, when the initial permission to stay, whether from an O-A or an O Visa, is extended for the purpose of retirement, then both will receive the same stamp showing the extension and will also have the word "retirement" shown on it.

From the various articles, it is clear the new health insurance requirements will apply to persons applying for a Non-Immigrant "O-A" Visa from a Thai Embassy or Consulate in their country of residence. However, what is not really clear is whether those that entered on an "O-A" Visa and apply to Immigration for an extension of their one year stay will also be required to show they have health insurance.
That's exactly what has me confused.

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Re: Mandatory health insurance

Post by Gaybutton » Sat May 25, 2019 2:10 pm

Dodger wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 1:34 pm
That's exactly what has me confused.
I don't understand what you are still confused about. If you have the retirement visa, it's either the O or the O-A. Do you have the retirement visa? If yes, which one do you have?

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Re: Mandatory health insurance

Post by Undaunted » Sat May 25, 2019 2:14 pm

Gaybutton wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 2:10 pm
Dodger wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 1:34 pm
That's exactly what has me confused.
I don't understand what you are still confused about. If you have the retirement visa, it's either the O or the O-A. Do you have the retirement visa? If yes, which one do you have?
He must be in denial.
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