...........Green Party, UKIP, Independents.....any number of single issue parties, timewaster nutters.
Any of whom may turn up at your door prior to the big day, none of whom will come anywhere near your door for the following 4 years and 11 months.
...........Green Party, UKIP, Independents.....any number of single issue parties, timewaster nutters.
Purely for clarification. Isn't the Attorney General a Member of Parliament appointed by the party in government? So might his advice be a bit like the distorted advice given to Trump by the dreadful William Barr?Captain Kirk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:10 am he did ask for advice first from the Attorney General so it's fair enough that he took the advice given and suspended parliament.
Fair point. Still, in the world of lies and deception that we accept from politicians I'm not too bothered about this. That's coming from someone who would be proud to take a bullet to the head rather than vote Tory.
One of the advantages of the first past the post system is that marginal parties don't usually win any seats. I think the Greens won Brighton and have never won anything else. UKIP will get 0 seats. The Greens have a very important single issue, but last time I looked, they were still run by nutters.Captain Kirk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:25 am ...........Green Party, UKIP, Independents.....any number of single issue parties, timewaster nutters.
Any of whom may turn up at your door prior to the big day, none of whom will come anywhere near your door for the following 4 years and 11 months.
No, disagree again. If there are enough people in agreement with smaller parties/nutters/extremists then they are entitled to be represented in parliament. Even getting 1% in an election should see them have half a dozen MPs. Makes it more worthwhile for folk like myself to turn up and vote also. Can't see any way I'll be voting for any of the main parties but on the off chance I come across someone on the ballot paper who actually seems to be in it to do something good rather than just be part of the system then I would vote for them. No point though whilst we have the corrupt FPTP system ensuring the establishment is maintained.Jun wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:11 pmOne of the advantages of the first past the post system is that marginal parties don't usually win any seats. I think the Greens won Brighton and have never won anything else. UKIP will get 0 seats. The Greens have a very important single issue, but last time I looked, they were still run by nutters.Captain Kirk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:25 am ...........Green Party, UKIP, Independents.....any number of single issue parties, timewaster nutters.
Any of whom may turn up at your door prior to the big day, none of whom will come anywhere near your door for the following 4 years and 11 months.
If you have PR, then parties like the BNP also get representation. In the event that none of the main parties get a majority, we could have a scenario where a number of small and extreme parties have disproportionate power.
But that surely opens some sort of Pandora's Box, for who determines the meaning of "slightly less perfect". Democracy as practised in many major countries is not true democracy, but most people hardly think about it, quite like it and call it democracy. Yet the Brexit referendum was decided on a one-man-one-vote true democratic principle. Why is one acceptable in one set of circumstances and yet the other is not?
There are compromises with ALL methods of selecting governments.fountainhall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:42 am But that surely opens some sort of Pandora's Box, for who determines the meaning of "slightly less perfect". Democracy as practised in many major countries is not true democracy, but most people hardly think about it, quite like it and call it democracy. Yet the Brexit referendum was decided on a one-man-one-vote true democratic principle. Why is one acceptable in one set of circumstances and yet the other is not?