Trump

[Gaybutton]

Is Trump really the right person to be President of the United States?

[Rocket]

The UK is being far too nice. I hadn’t heard of the Rwanda plan. Interesting.

[Rocket]

So I’m wondering if the democratic Harris supporters would like to see only one party rule for future of the USA.

Most of the illegals coming in will certainly vote Democratic. Millions going into the swing states could easily decide the election. Now swing states are won and lost by just 100,000 or 200,000 votes.Texas is almost a blue state now with many Californians moving there.The alien vote will easily turn it blue.

If Texas goes blue, the Republicans will probably never win a Presidential race again. This seems quite wrong to me, garnering votes by illegal means. Allowing the law to be broken to stay in power.
But I guess it’s ok since it’s the side you prefer.

[Jun]

I pity the choice US citizens have in this election.
Given that taxes are way too high in most western democracies, it's only reasonable that there should be a good right wing choice on the ballot paper.
Unfortunately, the Republicans have put forward a lunatic who endangers democracy. George W wasn't up to much either.

Admittedly, that's probably better than the choice of 2 left wing parties in the UK !

[Rocket]

I am a bit concerned about project 25. As I have a larger government pension than the private sector. They would like to cut mine to equal the private sector.

I’d vote democratic if only we had a decent candidate instead of this idiot running.

[Jun]

Ah, yes. Pensions.
Life expectancies have been increasing for decades, so pensions require more funding.

Some big private sector companies have got into trouble, because the pension promises of the day would be a problem for a CEO far into the future. Hence there was no incentive to fix the problem until it was too late.

They changed the accounting rules, so private companies have to face up to growing future liabilities. Most moved pensions onto a defined contribution model.

Meanwhile, it seem the public sector has no such restrictions. Hence, those working for the state still get abnormally generous pensions. Which is hardly fair, but there is no incentive for the politicians of today to fix a future problem.

This is a UK perspective. As far as I can tell, the US is almost exactly the same.

My challenge is to keep my money for funding my "pension", not for funding over generous public sector pensions.

[Gaybutton]

Again, the only thing I can think of that I agree with Trump about is deporting people who entered the USA illegally and are living in the USA illegally. The problem, as I see it, is dealing with the problem realistically.

I have said that other countries, including Thailand, arrest and deport people who are in the country illegally. The difference is the numbers of people in the USA illegally. Trying to deport them all on such a massive scale - I don't see how it can be done.

Have a look at this video. Would this be the reality of how it would be?

[Jun]

Again, the only thing I can think of that I agree with Trump about is deporting people who entered the USA illegally and are living in the USA illegally. The problem, as I see it, is dealing with the problem realistically.

I agree that's exactly what countries should do, however, you need a country that's willing to take them back.
If they show up in the US with a Mexican passport, perhaps Mexico might agree to take them back.
However, if they are from other countries, or even claim to be from other countries, why should Mexico take them ?

Incidentally, allowing ILLEGAL immigrants in is a very bad way of selecting them. If you start with people who have tendencies to break the law, it's a really bad filter. Although, I suppose Australia didn't turn out too bad in the long run .

[Gaybutton]

However it would be done, I see it as a complex, unprecedented, monumental, not to mention extremely expensive task that would have to be done in stages and would take years. People who want to avoid being caught and deported are going to try to hide, making it more difficult.

If it were me making decisions, people already under DACA would be exempt. People whose children were born in the USA, making those children automatic US citizens and their immediate families would be exempt. People whose presence is essential, meaning deporting them would actually cause problems for the USA would be exempt - but the complication is deciding what qualifies as essential and who gets to make the decisions. There are probably other exemptions that also need to be thought through.

Those who would be first priority deportees would be criminals, drug criminals and users - those types. But send them where? With some, there is no way to know their country of origin. With others, Jun is right - their country of origin would have to be willing to take them back. And if taking them back means they would be harmed, then the legality of sending people to those kinds of places becomes a complicated legal issue. And if those countries refuse to take them back, then what?

I don't know what the answers are, or how such deportations would take place - and for sure I don't think Trump, Vance, or anyone associated with then know either.

[Jun]

People whose children were born in the USA, making those children automatic US citizens and their immediate families would be exempt.

If I were writing the rules for my country, I wouldn't exempt people whose children were born here, at least not for about 5 years.

If you do allow such a loophole, they would just be bringing their pregnant wives in burkhas over in the boats as well. We don't need that.