Arab Motorcycle Scum Return

[Gaybutton]

Why do I think the motorbike maniacs won't give the first shit about a 2000 baht fine. Make it 20,000 baht, preferably much more, and that might make an impact. Don't the police realize these people are much more than just a nuisance. They are endangering people and apparently couldn't care less. They certainly show no respect to the police or anyone else. To them, threats from the police are nothing but a joke. Unfortunately, so far they have been right.

If any of them injure or even kill somebody, three guesses whether they will stop and take responsibility for what they've done or whether they instead will try to flee. I would hate to be the person who has to inform the victim's family about what happened and that this behavior could have been stopped long ago.

The only way I can see for this to truly be put to a stop would be to deal with them in the only language they seem to understand - immediate arrest, prosecution without bail so they can't flee the country, heavy fines, confiscation of the motorbikes at their own expense, and jail time followed by deportation and blacklisting.

Start doing that, all of that, to a few of them and maybe the rest will finally get the message.

"Harsh discipline. The harsher the better."
- Maximilian Schell (Eduard Roschmann), 'The Odessa File'
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Chonburi orders strict control over roaming Arab groups in the city

August 4, 2023

The Deputy Commander of the Chonburi Provincial Police has implemented strict measures against a group of Arab tourists causing disturbances while driving in the city and preparing to take action against car rental businesses.

Lt. Gen. Chomchuen Puratthanarat, Deputy Commander of Region 7 Provincial Police, revealed that they have been working on various issues related to the Arab tourists' behavior, reported INN.

The Arab group, known for renting cars, has been conducting themselves differently from Thai people, prompting discussions on cultural differences.

In addition to handling the rental businesses, the authorities have informed tourists about the traffic regulations and educated them about the local laws.

They aim to strike a balance between law enforcement and promoting tourism, ensuring a smooth travel experience without violating any laws.

Furthermore, rental companies are being regularly inspected, and clear warnings have been posted.

If any Arab driver is found renting a car without a valid license and proper documentation, they will face a fine of 2,000 baht, and further legal action may be considered.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1302515-chon ... -the-city/

[Gaybutton]

and partially because of the downturn of Sunee Plaza.

I’m not returning.

I don't blame you. I doubt you are anywhere near alone in that. That's another thing that can be added to the pile of problems they are causing. They are seriously hurting local business. Sunee Plaza has trouble enough as it is. This situation certainly is not helping anything.

The fact that this has been tolerated for years and still continues to be totally baffles me. If Thais were going to Kuwait and behaving like this, how long would it take for Kuwait to put a true stop to it? What is so special about Kuwait that these people are treated with kid gloves and a slap on the wrist once in a while? Why is it tolerated? Please - don't insult my intelligence by saying "tea money". There must be much more to it than just that, if "tea money" is an involved factor at all. Some probably think it is, but I don't buy it.

[Jun]

Why is it tolerated?

Do you think Pattaya Police set out to be:
A: The one of the most efficient and most honest police forces in SE Asia ?
B: Or a lazy feckless bribe collecting machine ?

If it's A, where is the evidence ?
There is plenty of evidence of B. I expect almost everyone here has seen them collecting bribes.

If the answer were A, they would have stopped the scum using South Pattaya as a racetrack years ago.

Discuss.

[Gaybutton]

If the answer were A, they would have stopped the scum using South Pattaya as a racetrack years ago.

I would agree in part, but I believe there is something else going on. I see nothing difficult about police stopping them, and yet they don't. So far, even when there is a "crackdown", that hardly puts a dent in it. Collecting bribes doesn't explain it to me. This is one case in which I don't see bribes having anything to do with it. Who would be bribing who? I know of nothing to indicate he motorbike maniacs themselves are bribing police. Who else would be motivated to bribe police to continue tolerating this.

I have no idea what is going on, but whatever it is, I don't see how money would play into it.

[Jun]

Who would be bribing who?

Have you considered that the police might just go where the easy money is ?

The only late night policing I see in Pattaya is either setting up a road block on Thrappraya road or going a round a few bars. Both provide easy money, without much effort or thought from the police.
Why would a bribe collecting mafia make the effort to chase after the scum, when there is easy money to be had ?

[Gaybutton]

Why would a bribe collecting mafia make the effort to chase after the scum, when there is easy money to be had ?

If they would start fining - heavily fining - the scum, the money would be even easier, wouldn't it? And while they're at it, they could also start fining the motorbike rental shops illegally renting to them.

[gerefan]

I was in Sunee Plaza last night. At about 01.30 we got a taxi to go elsewhere. I was gobsmacked with what we saw.

There were not dozens of motor bikes, there were hundreds. There were also hundreds of pedestrians walking side by side and between them the streets were totally blocked in places.

The main crowds were not in Soi Yensabai, although it was busy. Most of the bikes were up and down Soi 18? (the one parallel to Soi VC) and the Soi that leads from there up to Third Road.

The taxi driver literally just drove at the bikes which were on our side of the road and never yielded to any of them! He was scattering them all over the place.

I gave him a bigger tip for that!

[Gaybutton]

I gave him a bigger tip for that!

That taxi driver deserves a medal and a paid holiday. If the police won't do anything about it, I'm glad to know that at least some locals won't put up with it.

Is that the way it works in Kuwait? Universities are closed for holidays, therefore we go by the hundreds to Thailand to rent motorbikes and behave like total idiots. Is that the only way to spend holidays? There is nothing else to do and nowhere else to go? And once you rent your motorbike there is nothing better to do with them then race up and down a couple of sois?

How much money does it cost them to travel to Thailand, rent motorbikes, and behave like this?

This seems to have become some sort of tradition. I forget how many years this has been going on, but it's been many. I remember when there might be one or two motorbike maniacs zooming up and down the Sunee Plaza sois. Then year after year it began to escalate until it evolved into what we see going on now.

How much longer until their universities reopen and they all go home?

[Jun]

How much money does it cost them to travel to Thailand, rent motorbikes, and behave like this?

Sadly, I expect they can afford it. GDP per capita is 3 times Thai levels & I guess flying from the middle East to Thailand is relatively cheap.

As you will no doubt recall, Saddam Hussein did try to burn their oil fields, but the fires were put out and there is plenty left.

I know one set of criminals he could start with right now - the motorbike maniacs around Sunee Plaza. What they're doing is certainly criminal activity. I wish he would arrest, deport, and blacklist every one of them. I think Thailand can survive quite nicely even if they completely alienate Kuwaitis. If this is how they behave, and obviously it is, who needs them?

(Second quote imported from another thread, just to keep on topic)

For maximum effect, change "arrest, deport and blacklist" to "arrest, jail, deport and blacklist". A few weeks in a grotty jail ought to be a good deterrent.
However, this obviously isn't a priority for the brown shirt mafia.

Incidentally, if they were at all concerned about the issue, I presume nothing stops Thailand changing policy to demand visas from Kuwaitis. To be processed at whatever speed Thailand considers appropriate.

[Gaybutton]

For maximum effect, change "arrest, deport and blacklist" to "arrest, jail, deport and blacklist". A few weeks in a grotty jail ought to be a good deterrent.

I fully agree. If they are going to be deported they're going to find out what a "grotty jail" is like. That is where they'll be kept until the day they are put on a plane - and it can be days, even weeks, before all the arrangements can be made. And transportation to the airport won't be in a luxury limo either.