Boys - Outside Thailand

[Jun]

One of the masseurs I've seen occasionally in the UK keeps advertising with the phrase "New In Town". Even on new adverts.
He also claims to be 24 & is from Hong Kong.

For how long do you think someone can consider themselves to be "New" ?

I don't know precisely when I first met him, but the one thing I know for sure is it was definitely some time before 18 July 2015. Which makes it over 9 years ago. Possibly well over 9 years ago.

Obviously the phrase "New In Town" doesn't dupe me, as I know him.

[Gaybutton]

For how long do you think someone can consider themselves to be "New" ?

For as long as potential customers believe him.

[Jun]

For as long as potential customers believe him.

Another possibility is that customers consider the "New In Town" to be irrelevant.
What matters to me is the boy, the service offered and the price. Perhaps I'm not alone in thinking that.

Arguably, the only type of customer who would look for a boy who is "New" would be one who has tried all the other contenders and is looking for someone fresh. Now that's exactly the kind of customer who would have been reading adverts long enough to know he's not new.

[Gaybutton]

Now that's exactly the kind of customer who would have been reading adverts long enough to know he's not new.

It's not only boys outside Thailand. Many boys within Thailand do the same. Over the years I've seen many times when, a boy who has had his profile on an app for months, deletes his profile and starts a new profile to make people think he is "new". Often they even use the same photos from the previous profile.

I also have often seen boys who have been on the apps for years continue to use the same photos they have been using from day 1.

When they do those things and I become aware of it, they are boys I refuse to meet.

[Rocket]

There’s a Thai on the apps I still see. On his profile he says he’s 24, he used to work at Happy boys then later Eros bar.
Thing is he was working there back in 2008, which would mean he was seven years old. OF course he must have been eighteen then, which makes him about thirty six.

I joke about it with him,then he calls me Mark and laughs. Because that’s a fake name I use instead of my usual name all the boys know me by.

[Jun]

As long as a boy still looks good in reality, I don't care if he's been using the same photos for years. Of course, some don't look so good and the photos can be misleading, so I avoid them.

When I ask lads how long they have been in Pattaya, they usually count from their last visa run, even if they were only away for a few hours to do that. I presume this is a cultural thing.

Almost none of them have "new in town" on their profiles. They may well be constantly changing their Grindr profiles.

[Rocket]

When I ask lads how long they have been in Pattaya, they usually count from their last visa run, even if they were only away for a few hours to do that. I presume this is a cultural thing.

Yeah, I think it’s a cultural thing also. And some translation confusion. From my interactions with Thai boys, they are very literal. Or saying “ I see what you mean,” Or “ I see”, they might wonder what you see.

I think sarcasm never plays well either. I’m a sarcastic New Yorker and I have to consciously avoid it. I can be taken totally the wrong way and might offend them.

[Jun]

Yeah, I think it’s a cultural thing also. And some translation confusion. From my interactions with Thai boys, they are very literal. Or saying “ I see what you mean,” Or “ I see”, they might wonder what you see.

Another one is when I ask "What do you do here in _________?".
Now I'm expecting them to answer with their job, such as work at a bar or money boy.
However, over half the time they answer with something like "I live here".
I doubt they're trying to get rid of me, since they usually provide helpful answers to further questions.

Perhaps I need to be more precise and ask "What is your job ?"

I've also noted sarcasm isn't appreciated in some other Asian countries.

[Rocket]

They probably think you’re asking,” What are you doing here?”. I doubt they’re being flippant.

[Jun]

They probably think you’re asking,” What are you doing here?”. I doubt they’re being flippant.

Probably

Thai: คุณทำงานอะไร = Kun tam ngan arai ? = You do work what ? = What is your job ?

However the translation given on google is "What do you do ?"
We would usually interpret that as "What is your job?", but perhaps they expect a more precise reference to work in the question.

So that's exactly what I intend to try on the next trip. Hopefully in Thai, if the conversation is verbal.