Israel-Iran war. What are YOUR thoughts and opinions?

[Gaybutton]

Does the ceasefire include all the troublemakers backed by Iran

Trump did say he is going after Iran's proxies and will be aggressively hunting down sleeper cells within the USA.

I don't think this is over. I think it is only a question of time before everything heats up and escalates again.

Whatever happened to flying carpets, genies in magic lamps, and curly toed shoes . . . ?

[Dodger]

Somebody in Iran (maybe) just lobbed a missile into Israel less than an hour after the ceasefire started. Could be a proxy party-crasher...or maybe just bullshit. With these idiots we'll probably never know.

You watch...if this thing re-ignites we'll see Golden Boy waving goodbye to Netanyahu.

[Gaybutton]

From the news I am seeing, about 4 hours into the ceasefire Israel was hit by more missiles. Iran is denying they are the ones that fired the missiles. If it wasn't Iran, then who?

I disagree with Dodger. If Iran violates the ceasefire, I doubt Netanyahu would take that lying down and neither would Trump. I can't see Trump discontinuing support of Netanyahu if he retaliates. I also doubt Netanyahu would start attacking Iran again without first discussing it with Trump. I doubt he would risk doing something that would cause Trump to withdraw his support.

If somewhere other than Iran fired the missiles, it seems to me they are trying to provoke Israel to start attacking Iran again. But if it turns out it wasn't Iran, I would think Israel would first make certain of where the missiles came from and whether it happened on orders or approval from Iran before re-escalating hostilities.

My questions are:

Who fired the mystery missiles?
Why?
If it wasn't Iran and it wasn't done on orders from Iran, why would another country suddenly want to involve itself?
What other countries have these missiles along with the capability of firing them into Israel?
Were they they same kinds of missiles Iran had been firing?
Is firing of these missiles going to continue or was it a one time thing?

[Jun]

If it wasn't Iran and it wasn't done on orders from Iran, why would another country suddenly want to involve itself?
What other countries have these missiles along with the capability of firing them into Israel?

It may be Iran.

Also, in the last 5 years, other countries from which missiles have been fired at Israel include:
Lebanon (factions backed by IRAN)
Yemen (Houtis backed by IRAN)
The Gaza Strip (backed by IRAN).
Syria

I'd imagine Israel and the US know exactly where the missiles came from.

[Dodger]

I'd imagine Israel and the US know exactly where the missiles came from.

I'm imagining the same thing.

[Dodger]

Trump and his puppets are now disagreeing with the pentagon's initial Battlefield Military Intelligence Assessment which reported that Iran's nuclear sites HAVE NOT BEEN DESTROYED - leaving Iran in a position to continue enriching uranium within a few months - not several decades like Trump and his puppets were (are) boasting about. The huge stockpile of enriched uranium hasn't been accounted for either, thus elevating the risk. Is anyone surprised that he's denying this Report?

Iran is like one huge bee hive. They've been hit with a stick and called to arms...but the hive is still intact and the honey remains hidden.

I still contend that Trump will refuse to enter this war regardless of the success or lack of success of the B2 bombing run. He is by nature a coward and lacks the courage and stamina needed to be a wartime Commander in Chief. Deep-down inside he's knows this and is scared shitless right now. He'll have every excuse in the world for not entering the war beyond the one-time bombing run. He's too scared...doesn't want to lose his base, or GOP support when they start losing the midterm elections.

Time to fill-up on popcorn...it's gonna be a long movie.

[Gaybutton]

I still contend that Trump will refuse to enter this war regardless of the success or lack of success of the B2 bombing run.

And I still think it will be just the opposite. Trump has been blustering that Iran cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons - and I agree with that. If it turns out that Iran is still capable of making them, then I don't see where Trump will have any choice but to go back in and try again. The only way I can see how he might get out of it would be to supply Israel with everything they need and let them do the job themselves.

One outcome of this is now Iran can see that Trump means business. Whether they believe Trump would or would not strike again - and this time go further than only trying to destroy the nuclear capabilities, would Iran take that risk?

[Jun]

The only way to fix Iran is with regime change. How to do that is a problem, particularly for those countries who propped up the Shah until 1979.

[Dodger]

The only way I can see how he might get out of it would be to supply Israel with everything they need and let them do the job themselves.

That's actually how I see this thing developing, although B2 ordinance would be off-limits.

Israel just released their own military damage assessment which reads the same as the U.S. intelligence report - saying the nuclear facilities have not been destroyed.

Netanyahu is champing at the bit to keep the U.S. military in-play, but, in my opinion, Trump is poised to throw him under the bus and let him fight the battle on his own for the reasons mentioned earlier.

Just so you know, I think the right thing for the U.S. to do right now would be to launch a major joint attack (air, sea & land) with the Israelis with the objective of doing what they initially set out to do, and that's completely destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities and decimate their military. I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see this happening.

[Gaybutton]

B2 ordinance would be off-limits.

Why?

I think the right thing for the U.S. to do right now would be to launch a major joint attack (air, sea & land) with the Israelis with the objective of doing what they initially set out to do, and that's completely destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities and decimate their military.

I would have no objection to that. A country led by people who fund and back terrorism and has made it clear one of their fundamental goals is to destroy another country - if they get wiped, good riddance. But I too don't see that happening.